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There's a rather famous clock in London, guess what Roman numeral it uses for four.
Big Ben use IV...And that is the most famous clock on Britain
Why do all my watches show 4 as IV? That's the reason I chose "In Rome"....
My clock uses IV to represent 4. However, when counting out loud we use numbers and not numerals.
«The only place you’ll find the [subtractive] rule broken is on clock faces.» One shouldn't be quite so sure of oneself when writing about Roman numerals ; it is not at all difficult to find examples unrelated to clocks in which the subtractive rule has not been applied....
The 8 does it too on the other side. It would ordinarily be IIX. Surely it is because it is easier to read that way? Having the subtractions would look wrong upside-down. Plus you wouldn't need less moulds. You would still need a mould for a I, V & X regardless and end up making two more numerals.
8 is normally VIII, not IIX... that is the convention.
Actually (My Classics Teacher Told me) in Rome, in Roman times, people would never subtract for numerals.Instead classicists made this up around the 1600's.So actually 14 was XIIII etc.
While I agree with you on pretty much everything else, 8 is usually written as VIII. e.g. Final Fantasy VIII. You only use the subtractive rule to avoid 4 or more of the same numeral in succession. (IV, IX) There could be some exceptions, but I think that's the general gist of it.
I stand corrected! I should have realised the same two. Excellent example with FF!
How does using IIII instead of IV affect the molds? There's already a V in the inventory, so how is that reasoning relevant?
I have a clock with IV and a watch with IV. As stated by NanoGeek incorrectly, Big Ben is the large bell in the Elizabeth Tower in The Houses Of Parliament building, but correct is the use of IV, although British Railway clocks use IIII. The Forum clock in Rome uses IV.
Why does it require less molds?
I don't understand the relevance of molds as I don't know what molds are on clock faces.