1809 update broke


#1

Since I regularly create IMAGE backups (Macrium Reflect), I don’t need the recovery partition that Windows tries to create. My Win10 is on a 64gb SSD, ONE partition (no recovery partition). When I attempted the 1809 update, it created a recovery partition. I can find no way to stop this action. I restored the 1803 image backup, and will NOT update unless there’s a way to prevent Windows from creating that partition, along with stopping it from creating the windows.old file. Can this be done, or is Microsoft screwing us, AGAIN!


#2

Geek forever :trophy:

The recovery partition is generally <1GB. Is there any issue with that partition? Windows need that.
I didn’t try to delete that partition. But you can test something. Let Windows 10 create that partition. Then after full installation delete that recovery partititon.


#3

AFAIK, there is no way to prevent the creation or update of the recovery partion or saving of the rollback data file. Since probably less than 0.001% of Windows users bother with full disk image backups and/or have less than 128G of disk space it seems unlikely they will add that option.


#4

That’s exactly the reason I maintain up-to-date image backups. I am reading that the 1809 update is wiping out profiles on some computers (documents, photos, music, etc.) I would be very leery of trying to update at this time.


#5

Paul, the only way I was able to prevent the creation of the recovery partition is to do a VIRGIN install. If you do an UPDATE, it creates it and the windows.old file. I just did a virgin install when 1803 came out, and it took me a week to set things up the way I want it. I don’t want to go through that hassle again.


#6

Isn’t that a little like saying that Ford is screwing you because they won’t sell you a car with no left side doors just because you are the only one in the world that wants it that way?


#7

Every time you talk about a virgin install it makes me think of this :smile: :

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#8

“Update” from older version clearly NOT recommended.


#9

Newer version was release with fixes.

Has anyone here used KFR?


#10

Kentucky Fried Rabbit?


#11

Known Folder Redirection


#12

How do you plan on “not updating”? Not siding with MS, but here, resistance is futile (unless you have the Win 10 Enterprise). For something as innocuous as a tiny recovery partition, I highly suggest learning to live with it – to keep your sanity, if nothing else.

Stuff like this is why I detest Apple. But I think MS is still a lot more flexible, even if it too is going toward Apple’s way. Sigh…


#13

I didn’t say I wouldn’t update, just not through the “rush” method. If I wait for the “push”, it won’t create the recovery partition, at least 1803 didn’t. I installed 1709 via the downloaded ISO, and I partitioned the SSD as 1, and since I had no existing OS on the drive, it installed 1709 without creating the recovery partition. I attempted to upgrade to 1809 via the “rush” method, and MS decided to do it as if I was using a DVD, instead of the usual update method, thus creating the extra partition. As of now, I am still not able to get MS to send me the upgrade/update (whichever term you prefer) via the update channel, so I will have to wait.


#14

I use KFR so that my documents/pictures/videos are on my 500G HDD instead of my 128G SSD. Didn’t get 1809 so didn’t experience the problem, if I had my files deleted it would not have been a big problem I’d just restore the files from the NAS or offline backups.


#15

Is this hard to set up? I can manually do it for certain directories in File Manager but it’s more of a pain. I have a 1 TB HDD drive for data and Windows on a 480GB SSD. It especially gets difficult after I do a fresh install to re-link these directories on the HDD fo my home directory on the SSD.


#16

No it’s super easy.

Right click any of the special folders in file explorer and choose Properties. Choose the Location tab and then click the Move button.


#17

Cool. Is is possible to re-link to an existing folder on the other drive let’s say something comes up and you have to reinstall windows and recreate the account? Do I have to recopy the relevant folders from the HDD back to my home directory on the SDD and then move it all over again using the process you mentioned?


#18

Up until a few minutes ago I would have had to say I don’t know for sure but I think you can re-link after a clean install because the original move allows choosing an existing folder and also allows you to not move the existing files if you want.

I am literally in the process of re-setting up after using the Fresh start feature (thanks Chris for the great article https://www.howtogeek.com/265054/how-to-easily-reinstall-windows-10-without-the-bloatware/). I found that the relocation’s where still setup on the cleaned installation.

Since I haven’t used the Videos folder I decided to experiment. I put a couple files in the folder and then used the Restore Default feature to move that special folder back to C:. After a quick reboot (my, after 2 years of haphazard usage, 45s boot time is back to the original 15s now) I created a folder named Videos on D: and put a couple files in it. Then I used the change location feature and chose the new folder. Windows moved the files from C: to D: while leaving the existing files in place.


#19

Thank you for using the phrase “fresh install” :rofl: CC. @larrylmitchell

If you want to do that in an easy step you can go with symbolic link (or geeks say ‘Reparse point’). It just need one command mklink /d. One batch file would be enough.

If you do that in Windows style make a registry file. Whenever you install Windows freshly just run that REG file and reboot. Done!


#20

nice post, thank you very much