howtogeek at April 17th, 2013 13:24 — #1
Originally published at: http://www.howtogeek.com/161056/windows-8.1-rumored-to-have-significant-highly-desired-ui-changes-in-store-for-users/
Quite a few people have been unanimously vocal in their dislike for the Modern UI, lack of a Start Menu, and more in Windows 8. Enter Windows Blue, a.k.a. Windows 8.1, and the rumors that Microsoft may be ready to compromise on some of the UI changes users want. The question is, if the rumors are true will it be enough to turn things around for Windows 8 or is it too late?
nanogeek at April 17th, 2013 13:38 — #2
No,you can haz cheezburger:
nsdcars5 at April 17th, 2013 13:41 — #3
If you get me unified search, I'm back to Win8(.1). If not, I still keep a couple of Win7 Enterprise volume licenses from my dad
iszi at April 17th, 2013 13:47 — #4
Add in boot-to-desktop and the Start menu, and I'll seriously consider re-building for 8. In fact, I think I'm going to hold off an already planned re-build until we find out for sure if this is happening in 8.1.
Another thing I would like to see (which we're already working on here, to some extent) is a way to easily disable all the background processes and services associated with the Metro Start Screen entirely. I personally have a hard time seeing a use case for this interface on my single-display, non-touchscreen laptop, so I don't want any of it taking up any system resources if it can be avoided.
akemiiwaya at April 17th, 2013 13:54 — #5
I am probably one of the more rare users who actually likes Windows 8 as is. ^_^ It is definitely not for everyone though...
I do keep the Start Screen limited to just regular 'social type' apps though...all regular desktop app tiles are instantly removed since I can just start typing and pull them up that way. ^_^
xhi at April 17th, 2013 14:14 — #6
While I have continued to use Windows 8 desktop with no problem I look forward to these changes so many others will join me. Since I
never seldom shutdown my computers and have XP, Vista, 7, and 8 at my fingertips. Since the desktop comes up on Windows 8 everytime I wiggle it's mouse I don't really notice any difference from 7.
codinghorror at April 17th, 2013 16:15 — #7
Oh man I don't know what crack they were smoking when they segmented search into three buckets like that.
iszi at April 17th, 2013 16:29 — #8
I think having the ability to easily narrow down your search like that is great. But I definitely agree that you should still have the option of using a "Search Everything" function instead.
geek at April 17th, 2013 16:35 — #9
The thing that drives me absolutely crazy, all the time, is when I can't remember if a setting panel is an Application or a Setting. There's no consistency there.
You'd think they would have thought... if somebody is searching for Device Manager from the Start Screen, perhaps we should just show them the result even if they are searching through Apps, especially if there are no results.
Like a "No apps matched your search. Here are some settings that did."
mgtutorials at April 17th, 2013 17:08 — #10
If they add the Start menu back, I'll be kinda mad. Already bought Start8 and I actually kinda like it.
whs at April 17th, 2013 19:53 — #11
I drink to that. The current Windows 8 setup makes really no sense for a traditional PC - and I understand that there are over 1 Billion of those out in the world. Even the new PCs that they are selling are mostely like that. Touch screen is still a rare commodity. It will probably never be a big seller for the traditional PC.
codinghorror at April 17th, 2013 19:55 — #12
Makes sense for laptops, touchscreen or not -- because they are small screen. Windows 8 is quite good on a single screen laptop.
It is best on touchscreen but it works quite well on small single screen devices like laptops, too.
Last time I checked laptops vastly outsold desktops:
whs at April 17th, 2013 20:07 — #13
It 'works' on non touchscreen PCs. But it is quite cumbersome. Going back and forth all the time between your application, the big start window and all apps is not very convenient. And if you are the unlucky one that ends up with one of those new full screen applications because you double clicked on something, then things get even messier.
The best would be if they installed this new UI when the installer senses a touchscreen (they can do special measures for non rotational disks - SSDs - at installation) and installed the traditional UI for all the other screens.
raphoenix at April 17th, 2013 20:16 — #14
As I said in an earlier posting several days ago, MS should have made Two Versions of Windows 8.
One for Touch Screen Tablets and possibly for Laptops AND One for traditional large PCs.
Also there is NO need for the Default GPT HD Geometry NOR the Bios Secure Boot feature.
These features just cause problems for Non-Technical OEM Machine users when things go wrong
and they normally do at some point in time.
whs at April 17th, 2013 20:40 — #15
I fully agree. But that was probably a marketing gimmik that gives then some exclusivity.
That reminds me the $1200 Sony laptop I bought last year that could not even load a live Linux CD - because of their retarded BIOS. Their answer was that this PC was 'Designed for Windows 7". And they would not budge until I wrote a letter to their CEO. Then I got my money back.
iszi at April 17th, 2013 20:57 — #16
This is quite incorrect. There is a very valid security function served by the Secure Boot feature. It is perhaps true that Microsoft and its OEM partners have implemented this in a rather unfriendly way, but it does serve a purpose regardless.
In my next upgrade, I probably will be looking for a hardware and OS combination that supports Secure Boot. But I will also be looking for that system to be one that permits me to add or remove trusted certificates in the UEFI as I see fit.
raphoenix at April 17th, 2013 21:06 — #17
Then you will be looking to Build Machines as I do because I don't think you will find that option feature in OEM Machine Bioes.
iszi at April 17th, 2013 21:10 — #18
If it's a desktop, I'm definitely building it - always have. If it's a laptop, I'll just have to do some careful research. I'm sure I'll more likely find open UEFIs on Linux systems than ones pre-loaded with Windows, and I don't have a problem loading a fresh OS on the laptop right when I get it - I usually do that anyway.
raphoenix at April 17th, 2013 21:48 — #19
akemiiwaya at April 17th, 2013 22:07 — #20
Kitties and cheeseburgers...definitely a winning combination! ~_^
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