howtogeek at April 12th, 2013 06:45 — #1
Originally published at: http://www.howtogeek.com/145984/why-i-still-use-windows-7-after-a-year-of-trying-to-like-windows-8/
Have you upgraded to Windows 8 yet? We’ve published a lot of Windows 8 articles here at How-To Geek, and I’ve written many of them, but I haven’t. I still use Windows 7 on my PC.
nanogeek at April 12th, 2013 06:50 — #2
Hear Hear @ChrisHoffman Hear Hear!
thirdnipple at April 12th, 2013 07:08 — #3
Great summary of why most people have issues with Win 8.
A couple of points to add:
I love Windows and I have always been an early adapter - usually one of the first people I know to use a new Microsoft OS - this is the only one that I rolled back and stared using the previous version.
I think the biggest thing you left out is that The Metro interface is ugly.
gedstar at April 12th, 2013 07:15 — #4
I upgraded my Laptop and PC to Windows 8 from Windows 7 and have to say I really like it, installed Classic Shell and all is working fine. Haven't had any problems to date and find it breeze to use.
Won't be going back to Windows 7 quite happy with Windows 8
paul_d_mcguinne at April 12th, 2013 07:33 — #5
Our company develops applications in Windows environments, and because of that we have MSDN licenses. This means that the development teams have had Windows 8 for some time. The development guys all have one thing in common... they all uninstalled Windows 8t and rolled back to Windows 7. The general consensus.. "Someone at Microsoft thinks that iPad translates to the desktop" (it doesn't...)
The key issue I have is that I use 6 or 7 apps simultaneously, as well as command prompt / start/run combinations to speed things up. My experience of Win8 is that it adds approx 50% overhead to my work as I just cannot get it to perform in the way I want it to.
poppamunz at April 12th, 2013 08:23 — #6
I'll be honest, there's one main reason I haven't upgraded to Windows 8. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The desktop is fine for me, and my applications are working.
frassmith at April 12th, 2013 08:24 — #7
Living in China, there is one major deal breaker for me. I need a VPN to access many sites. This set's up a local proxy and works fine on the desktop. However, the so-called "Modern" interface applications are unable to use the same proxy as desktop applications. I believe that you can jump through some hoops to get this working, but, why, Microsoft, why?
Surely something as low level as network access should be shared between interfaces.
mugglebornny at April 12th, 2013 08:40 — #8
I bought a Win8 PC late last year. I disliked the Start screen almost immediately. It's very colorful, but navigating it drove me nuts. I don't have a touch screen and it was just too clumsy for me with a mouse. Then I read about the "Start8" app on HTG and gave it a try. I love it! I have the speed of a Win8 PC with the Win7 desktop that I always liked. VERY HAPPY with my hybrid!
callasabra at April 12th, 2013 08:59 — #9
Excellent article that really captures my thoughts and experiences with Win8. MS has completed failed to serve the business/workstation user with Win8. Keep up the good writing.
isb_sbdw at April 12th, 2013 09:31 — #10
It deserves to mention that you have done an excellent job covering the points that most geek understand and feel, and which microsoft just doesnt get. I am sure they have customer reviews and tons of responses from people who bought their stuff right from the time of XP. Why they fail to respond to that and continue pushing their bad and half baked services like music, messenger mail and stuff is what is economy made of. They want to run their gigantic bumbling machine of thousands of jobs rather than stream lining and working on what stuff really creates value!
The only difference i would make in the review would be to splatter it with choicest expletives for making life so difficult for common geeks to get to their work.. i mean what gives??? why must we suffer?
iszi at April 12th, 2013 10:00 — #11
Seeing a re-build of my laptop on the horizon, I've been debating whether I would load Windows 7 again or if I should finally give Windows 8 a real try. You've helped make up my mind for me, by reaffirming everything I've gathered from other reviews and seen myself in my occasional uses of Windows 8 on my wife's laptop.
Windows 7 is the new XP.
I'm sure neither of us is the first to have said it, but this is something I've been saying for awhile as well. I haven't seen enough real value in switching to 8 to justify it as a consumer, let alone consider that an enterprise would want to migrate.
I must say, the change in search was actually something I liked when I saw it on my wife's laptop. If I'm just searching for a program, I don't want to see all the folders & files stored on the computer that are related - I just want to find the primary EXE or a shortcut. If I'm searching for screenshots I made of an application, I don't need the app itself jumping on top of the results. That said, I definitely agree that this could be made better by establishing more consistency regarding the categorization of settings. It might also be nice to give users the option (something Microsoft seems to be wandering away from, for some asinine reason) of reverting to the old all-in-one search mode.
- Modern Creeps Into the Desktop
Very ugly. Can't stand this happening at all, and the inconsistency only makes it worse.
- No Side-by-Side Applications
- Poor Support for High-Resolution Monitors
If I can't have more than two apps on-screen at a time, or even arrange the two however I want them, it's a real deal-breaker. It would seriously get in the way of how I work on one screen. Dare I ask how things are handled (if at all) in Metro on multi-screen setups? I've got three monitors at work, and I feel horribly constrained whenever I have to work from home on my single 15" laptop screen.
- I Don’t Want to Live in the Microsoft Ecosystem
Amen, brother! My wife really felt it when MS dropped CalDAV & CarDAV support, since our e-mail & calendar is in a Google Apps domain. For me, this was the proponent I needed to finally get her to switch to Thunderbird.
Another trend I hate in the smartphone world, and do not like to see coming to the desktop world. Unfortunately, there's too much money in monopolizing the apps markets. I doubt this is going away any time soon.
The new Task Manager is really nice, but I still prefer Process Explorer.
I haven't really gotten into the guts of the new Task Manager yet. But, unless the new Task Manager is Process Explorer, I don't see myself putting away my SysInternals tools anytime soon.
Great article, here. Thanks again for helping me make up my mind!
marcycn at April 12th, 2013 11:00 — #12
There will never be a version of Windows that people like right out of the box. We all get into this rut of knowing what we are doing and we, for the most part, don't like to learn new stuff especially when it comes to our computers. Geeks usually love the new stuff at least at first. They have had a year or more to play with Win8 and should know it well by now.
I have two laptops, one is still Win7 and the other one I converted to Win8. I find myself using Win8 all the time - it's fun! I did have trouble upgrading. I chose to keep my Win7 stuff and that proved to be a mistake. I had to reinstall 8 without keeping anything. Not unusual to have trouble upgrading. The things I don't like I have changed. I am not having any trouble with any of my programs except Norton Ghost! They decided not to make it compatible and tried to force us to use their 'new and improve' program. No thanks. Acronis works just fine.
Anyway, if you are a creature of habit stick with Win7. If you like playing with your computer upgrade to Win8. Patience and a little reading from sites like this one will give you all you need to succeed. Eventually we will all have to upgrade OR learn yet another OS!
icanhopegp at April 12th, 2013 11:07 — #13
Good article. pretty much summed up my experience. I use a desk top and love it. I have dual boot. win 8 and win 7. I use win 7 99.9 percent of the time. I have for win 8 for one reason. 39.00 and it has bit locker which my copy of win 7 doesn't have. the reason I like win 8 or win 7 over all other versions is the ease of installing. I am one of those people who three or four times a years will re install operating systems. Win 7 installs almost everything without me having to put in a company disk. Win 8 is a little better but the article said it all. Win 8 is trying to herd you and it takes ways to many steps to accomplish a simple task. frankly I can't find anything it has that windows 7 doesn't have.
iszi at April 12th, 2013 11:08 — #14
I don't recall hearing complaints about Windows 7 - or at the very least, not half as many as have been for Me, Vista, or 8.
...and a majority (or, at least, a vociferous minority) of geeks still don't love it - what does that say?
Or Microsoft could actually listen to its customers for once, and fix the major issues with a Service Pack.
geek at April 12th, 2013 11:09 — #15
That's largely because Windows 7 was just a service pack to Vista.
Under the hood, everything was nearly the same, just tuned a little better, and with a new taskbar.
iszi at April 12th, 2013 11:13 — #16
And yet, unlike Vista, it was totally worth it to switch from XP.
Sidenote: All these years later, I still hear so many complaints about Windows Me. I must be unique in that I had no more (granted, no less either) problems with it than I did 98SE.
eddie_tubridy at April 12th, 2013 11:14 — #17
I completely concur. There are many significant improvements in the desktop and it was certainly worth the $40 upgrade when that was available. 99% of the time I use the desktop. I tried to get used to use it without the after market start programs, gave up and finally settled on Classic Shell which is very nice. I do use some of the metro applications like the one that connects to my Windows Phone 8 but by in large I don't find them very useful.
marcycn at April 12th, 2013 11:24 — #18
You are right, Windows 7 came out pretty good. Hard core geeks? Not the Best Buy geeks? They don't have a clue and I know this first hand. I've even proved the sales people in there wrong across the states.
Anyway, Microsoft is going to do what it wants to do and that is the reason people have so much angst against them and will never totally embrace any OS out of the box. I also still have an XP desktop - XP was pretty good too but it was a learning curve just like Win8 - and will hold onto it for some time to come. I have software I like that works on it that either won't work on 7 or 8 or is too expensive to upgrade.
ray_c at April 12th, 2013 11:27 — #19
I also tried the initial version of windows8...for less then a week. It felt like going on from windows3.1 to windows95.....only worse! My 1st thoughts were "Who is driving this car!". Getting rid and going back to windows7 was another matter! I had to manually move all my files etc to a 2nd hard-drive(I have 3 in my machine) and then delete the partition completely on drive C.
I shut down the computer and disconnected all drives except C and the DVD rom then re-installed 7. After re-connecting the other drives all was fine except for a mass of temp files on my 2nd hard drive. I just deleted the lot.
Windows8 is set to capture your business and control the way you do EVERYTHING. Most likely built for a cellphone and then offered up to desktop users at a much cheaper price then any other version of windows.
I'm glad to be rid of it and will not use it again....ever.
I need my computer to be exactly that. MY computer and not Bill Gates. I'd much rather go back to Linux.
iszi at April 12th, 2013 11:30 — #20
I don't think there's ever been a Microsoft OS with as steep a learning curve (particularly with regards to transitioning from a previous MS OS) as Win8 - at least not since Windows 95.
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