howtogeek — 2013-05-04T06:42:02-04:00 — #1
Originally published at: http://www.howtogeek.com/162200/no-more-upgrade-fees-use-google-docs-or-office-web-apps-instead-of-microsoft-office/
Microsoft recently launched Office 2013 as well as Office 365, a subscription service. Office 365 will cost you $9.99 per month or $99 a year, while Office 2013 will cost you $219.99 for the Home and Business edition, which can only be used on one PC at a time.
aar0n — 2013-05-04T08:38:20-04:00 — #2
You ever heard about LibreOffice ?
fidelio1 — 2013-05-04T10:08:46-04:00 — #3
How PRIVATE can Google Docs be (or the MS alternative) if you're storing your documents, spreadsheets, etc., in the cloud on Google's servers or Microsoft's or anyone else's?
That's what would stop me immediately. Any information about this?
themike — 2013-05-04T10:26:57-04:00 — #4
That's a lot of money to spend on an office software. I found Libreoffice to be more than I would ever use and a lot easier to navigate and fully functional with windows office.
steveneuler — 2013-05-04T10:39:37-04:00 — #5
This is an incredibly sloppy sentence: [QUOTE] If you’re writing a book and need to build an index using Microsoft Word, managing a complicated database with Microsoft Access, or using complicated macros in Microsoft Excel, these solutions aren’t going to cut it. [CLOSE QUOTE] What solutions will not cut it?
I use Microsoft 2007 to type in Hebrew and Greek, documents supported with footnotes. At some point an index or vocabulary listing will be required; I would expect any word processing program to be able to assist in the production of any document.
$219 for a competent word processing program suitable for production of term papers and dissertations is not terribly expensive.
alireza_cr7 — 2013-05-04T13:19:49-04:00 — #6
In Iran, Google Docs and Office Web Apps open very slow and with errors. Iran Government do this by blocking SSL.
ensign_scrulu — 2013-05-04T14:51:46-04:00 — #7
You don't say Alireza_CR7...who would have thought Irans government would purposely sabotage their subjects' attempts at educating themselves and communicate freely.
standuncan — 2013-05-04T14:52:57-04:00 — #8
I appreciate this article. I've looked at all of the alternatives you mention and agree basically with your assessment. But here are a couple of other suggestions I'd like to receive some feed back on.
First, I frequently use Zoho. It is a whole suite of programs including Word processor, Spreadsheet, calendar, CRM, Presentation software, and word processor. All online and all free. I mainly use the email program, but I occasionally need the word processor and spreadsheet and they are very clear, easy to use, and adequate for common usage. What do others think?
A second program is the Kingsoft Office. Not as an online program, but as a stand-alone MS Office look-alike. It works very smoothely and is FREE. There is also a smart phone app and I've written extensive letters (using my stored-template stationary), and mailed them off to my wifi-connected printer while at lunch. hard to beat and the price is right. There is a newer and paid version, but even that doesn't carry the hefty price tag of MS Office. There are a few things that MS can do that it can't, but very few. And ninety percent of the commands are identical, so there is almost no learning curve.
I would be interested if others have tried it and have an assessment.
whs — 2013-05-04T17:22:16-04:00 — #9
I use Libre Office at times on my Mint system. It is quite useful but has a lot less function than MS Office. The files are also only semi compatible with MS Office - e.g. an Impress picture show will display the pictures but not play the music or use the settings in PP. And for a .pptx or .ppsx file it is the same in Impress. Word and Writer have similar compatibility restrictions.
If you stay in Libre Office all the time and you are happy with the function set, that is a perfectly valid option. But mixing Libre Office and MS Office is not so swift.
robynsveil — 2013-05-04T18:18:28-04:00 — #10
I write "software" based on MS Office Excel VBA. LibreOffice will sort-of run it, although there are a few compatibility issues at times. Key, though, to realise is that I only create these applications because - in a public hospital setting in Queensland, Australia - that's the solutions development environment I have available. That is the ONLY reason I use this environment: VBA is a very poor tool in terms of consistency and programmer control, IMVHO... I much prefer Python or even Gambas 3.
So, is Office necessary for most tasks? probably not. I would guess that for "a very large percentage" of the population, a web app would suit most needs. Which, I think, is what that "very large percentage of the population" are realising and why PC sales in general are falling off in favour of alternative computing solutions.
themike — 2013-05-04T18:36:30-04:00 — #11
i rarely have a need for a full fledged office suite. LibreOffice I don't even install the entire software program. If I have a word processor with spell check and I can open microsoft office documents that's about all I need. I do have Office 2010 on my windows system but find it to be more of an intrusive nuisance program.
kryfon — 2013-05-04T20:41:59-04:00 — #12
Google Docs rocks, and LibreOffice is quite good. You didn't mention OpenOffice, which I prefer, and the price is still right
robert_zanol — 2013-05-04T23:37:50-04:00 — #13
Looking for grammar or looking for useful info? I will take the info over the grammar anytime. I think we all can figure out quite easily what was meant.
steveneuler — 2013-05-05T10:57:23-04:00 — #14
Accurate communication wants proper grammatical constructs to reduce ambiguity of the worse type. Anyone who can't readily see that has a fowl grasp of Fowler's ENGLISH USAGE.
These does not convey whether you are discussing Microsoft or Google Docs.
Please don't be one of those morons who has to have the last word. It would have taken less time to correct the sentence than produce a snarky response.
themike — 2013-05-05T11:06:33-04:00 — #15
name calling, the first sign of higher intelligence.
robert_zanol — 2013-05-05T11:07:47-04:00 — #16
Why would you be calling anyone a moron? Not so nice!
Now the English language has something called an antecedent. It is when a word (such as those, these, etc) refers back to a previously referenced subject. In this case Google Docs and the others mentioned earlier.
jodz — 2013-05-05T13:08:12-04:00 — #17
While I understand most people don't use Microsoft Office to it's full potential, the basic web apps are very frustrating to those who do. They're fine for whipping up something quick and dirty that can be easily shared ... and I love the collaborative nature of them. But it's always been nice to have that "gold standard" so if I create something more extravagant, I can count on most people being able to open and use the files as intended (e.g., forms). There have always been some compatibility issues across versions and/or platforms, but if the full versions are no longer used by the masses, there will likely be many frustrated users. And of course, they'll blame Microsoft!
whs — 2013-05-05T13:24:17-04:00 — #18
There are certain things you can only do with MS office - e.g. a PowerPoint picture show like this.
sawtooth1953 — 2013-05-05T15:36:27-04:00 — #19
I've met many people who are led to believe they need MS Office... but don't need it. They are "private citizens" who are not creating corporate documents requiring style sheets or embedded objects... they write 1 page personal letters, they make notes, they make lists... their new computer has the trial version of MS Office and when it expires, they pay for the right to continue the way they've been working. They buy their own computer and don't have it for making a living. They are unaware of MS Wordpad, which can do all the things they need... for free (Maybe they like selecting their own font, or embellishing with underlines, italics, etc and adding some pics to the text.). The need to create impressive presentations, style sheets, etc. is not the need of retired people, employees at retail stores, service people, people whose main interactions are emails, etc.. So getting the word out that there are free conveniences above and beyond WordPad or the equivalent, is good. I like that with online options I can start a document at one of my computers and work on it somewhere else... and share it with others, etc.
I installed Open Office mainly to allow me to open the MS Office documents sent to me... rarely are they the kind of document that actually required the powerful features of Word.
If I have a grammatical error in the above, please understand if I don't want to hear about it. LOL!
whs — 2013-05-05T16:11:29-04:00 — #20
Why don't you get the free Word Viewer for that purpose. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891090
There are also free viewers for PP and Excel.
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