chrishoffman — 2014-04-11T06:40:05-04:00 — #1
Originally published at: http://www.howtogeek.com/186754/microsoft-is-still-making-security-updates-for-windows-xp-but-you-cant-have-them/
Windows XP isn’t dead and buried yet. Microsoft will be creating security updates for XP for years to come, but those updates won’t be available to normal users. No, they’re just for large businesses and governments with money to burn.
kell — 2014-04-11T08:31:52-04:00 — #2
This is what I think MicroSoft should do: Stop forcing us to activate XP when we have to reinstall. I will gladly give them $200 for that. As for their "updates", they broke stuff all the time. I'll be glad to have their bossy fingers gone from poking around in my system. And speaking of bossy fingers, that's what I hate about the direction the OS is moving, less and less control for the user, more and more control by Microsoft. Sort of like the government.
I have a Win7 laptop that I only use when absolutely necessary. No way to get that screen hogging taskbar down to a bearable size and stop it jumping up in my face. Many of my applications won't run on it and they made a mess of Explorer. Libraries? Puh-leeze. Wasn't the My Documents folder bad enough? 8? Oh Horrors!
Linux anyone? Well, let's face it. All the great software is written for Windows. So- what's a girl to do? Stick with the tried and true. I have a decent anti-virus, good surfing habits, weekly disk copy, every day backups. Until Microsoft puts out another stable and infinitely customizable OS, I'm sticking with XP.
nsdcars5 — 2014-04-11T09:06:40-04:00 — #3
Windows 7? With minimal tweaks, you can get your taskbar to look like this:
And that's if you're stubborn. My dad moved from XP to 7 without a hitch, and he's not exactly what you call technically inclined.
I'm using 7 right now, and would gladly use 8 if it weren't for some stuff that doesn't work in it.
If Microsoft stopped the activation mechanism, everybody would move back to XP and cause hell. XP was awesome, but it's just a year short of my age, and let me tell you - a twelve year old operating system that isn't supported by its maker will get malware sometime or the other. I assure you it will.
obada_m — 2014-04-11T10:32:09-04:00 — #4
Windows Xp is widely used in industrial computers, industrial automation and even in military radar systems, and for years windows xp embedded in these industrial systems. and this mean millions of dollars per year
So MS will continue to support XP for the governments and industrial computer manufacturers.
thomas_kolakows — 2014-04-11T10:37:34-04:00 — #5
I love how every article on the end of Windows XP support always have to include the line that says something to the effect "if you don't want to lose support switch to Linux". The average XP user wouldn't know Linux from Linus Van Pelt! In the long run it is going to cost these companies/governments much more to keep XP than to move up to a more modern OS.
stupot65 — 2014-04-11T11:41:31-04:00 — #6
Omg though I was scrolling through some other site that said upgrading to linux was the worst idea ever that it was all configuration and terminal and poop like that and I was like lies! and like they say buy windows 7 it's 'only' $100 and I was like poop off ya weirdo
(Btw, feel free to replace poop with whatever word you think fits best )
nsdcars5 — 2014-04-11T13:30:48-04:00 — #7
I agree, Linux isn't difficult, but it's not for everybody. Thanks to Robert_Zanol for this link, I'll be posting it around a lot: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
sedge — 2014-04-11T18:29:12-04:00 — #8
“An IT manager, who wished to remain anonymous because he was not authorized to speak on the matter, told Computerworld that Microsoft had quoted his company $1 million for the first year of custom support to cover 5,000 Windows XP machines, $2 million for the second year, and $5 million for the third.”
Oh, you mean Abbott Laboratories? Suckers.
libre_lbelmont — 2014-04-11T21:27:40-04:00 — #9
Microsoft has always been a huge asshole.
sirraf03 — 2014-04-13T03:22:55-04:00 — #12
"Kapersky"? Who's that?
A Multi Ka Zillion Dollar Company tells you don't make nuthin for that O/S ain't compulsion?
Drivers? Get a car first!
Yes, I like the IP man too!
But girls are Girly anyway.
And if your 13, I'm 4.230769230769231 times older than you, and I've earned my stuborn streak.
Actually, I don't think there's any reason why M$ can't tell the plblean masses they won't let them continue using the O/S of their choice and turn around and support the Big Buck Daddies that will pay $$$ to keep don what they've been doing. Not
Personally I thnk if the nasses want to keep using XP M$ should simply say "OK, you want to keep using XP? Pay up!" This could be a minimal fee to continue suppling updates (that they are making for the Big Boys anyway), this would increase their bottom line and keep (most) everybody happy.
nsdcars5 — 2014-04-13T05:54:37-04:00 — #13
Most adults have.
So they have to develop patches for Windows XP, Vista, and 7? Yeah, right. All they need is a large increase in workload.
But Windows 7 isn't girly... I like it too! (Less than 8, but that's another thing)
sirraf03 — 2014-04-13T12:03:40-04:00 — #14
Not really. They're making the updates for those who pay already (Big Daddy War Bucks and others) simply make the database they're already compiling for them available to those who pay the fee also. Then, when they get cut off, everybody's cutoff at the same time.
Lego my Eggo? Hey, that's great!
No, Windows ain't girly, but ...
nsdcars5 — 2014-04-13T12:52:14-04:00 — #15
And they're charging large prices for it. Prices that will go in new employees that make the patches. If small fees is charged for everybody, they won't get the same kind of money, would they?
Upgrading to Windows 7 is still cheaper, cause you don't have to pay a monthly fee - it's a one-time amount.
sirraf03 — 2014-04-13T19:57:04-04:00 — #16
Alright, here's what I'm getting at.
You bought XP which included the patches and updates to follow. But when they want you to pay for another O/S they shut down the updates to "concentrate" on updates for the new O/S's. But, if they are already telling some they will continue producing updates for Large sums, then those updates already exist (or will, once they make them). So what you do is tell those others who want to keep their XP's going that you will make those same updates available to them for, say, 1/2 the price of a new O/S (say $50 USD), not a monthly fee, then give them access to those updates you're already making for the ones paying big bucks, and you make more money and more people happy allowing them to keep their O/S for a little longer. It's more of a marketing strategy for making people happy than about making money, although they would. I mean, M$ is taking flak about everything from hardware flops to O/S issues to, well, you name it. So why not try to generate some good will and try to recover some market share and then use some good market studies to find out what people really want and need than trying to stuff things down their computerized throats.
nsdcars5 — 2014-04-14T03:12:29-04:00 — #17
But if regular people are getting updates for a small one-time fee, why the <censored> would a corp spend so much money to get the updates in the first place? The corps will also want a $50-per-PC rate, severely reducing MS's earnings and hence not getting enough money to make the future updates.
sirraf03 — 2014-04-14T05:22:05-04:00 — #18
I don't know for a sure thing, but I've been seeing/reading that some Corps/Govt's have made/been given and accepted proposal's for an extended use because of specialized hardware etc. using it, and the time and money involved in upgrading. Word I've heard is it's not exactly a done deal but may most likely happen, in which case, what I'm proposing could work, but then again, we are talking M$ here, so there's no telling what will actually happen, just that the most likely out come won't necessarily be what the average Joe might like/think.
In the end, it's all just Pipe Dreams, and Wishful Thinking.
nsdcars5 — 2014-04-14T05:38:32-04:00 — #19
I'm still wondering how a pipe symbol ( | ) can make dreams...
sirraf03 — 2014-04-14T18:54:55-04:00 — #21
Ahhhh, uummm, It's not about symbols, it's about pipes and what you put in it to smoke that cause the dreams.
wilsontp — 2014-04-15T08:25:43-04:00 — #25
Then where's the incentive to the people paying the big bucks to continue to pay the big bucks?
You can't charge someone $1 million for something, then turn around and sell it to someone else for $50. That's very, very bad business.
sirraf03 — 2014-04-15T19:14:59-04:00 — #26
Yeah, know what you mean there. But, The guy paying $1 Mill is most likely paying to cover, say 25,000 units (could be more, could be less), so they're paying a bulk rate plus they most likely are going to be getting some other services in there for their transitional problems. Where as with the civilian/plebeian masses, for the most part, are just getting patches and updates for security and the opportunity to keep their fav O/S rolling a little longer. What I'm getting at here, is, a large entity, like a Corp or Gov't, will be more likely to have a transitional issue (yes, even with a good lead time) because they have larger IT issues, buying all the necessary hardware and software to replace old stuff, because (for instance) that little office in Po-Dunk, Ark. got over looked, or, all those Gee-Gaw Scanners in Scratch Me, Africa that everyone took for granted, or even those registers in all those commissaries were over looked simply because IT only went there once every couple of years because the locals did their own repairs or had a few extras on hand to replace the ones that broke.
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