chrishoffman — 2014-07-03T06:40:46-04:00 — #1
Originally published at: http://www.howtogeek.com/192462/linux-was-once-hard-to-install-and-use-now-its-easy/
Linux is easier to install and use than ever. If you tried installing and using it years ago, you may want to give a modern Linux distribution a second chance.
ringhalg — 2014-07-03T10:23:19-04:00 — #2
I remember doing an installation of Linux using 6 DVDs, It was the time when I had a 5 GB internet cap, so I had to download a piece every month. The install was long, boring and confusing. The packages also didn't work correcty and I had the cycle that was described in the article. I stopped using Linux and went back to Windows.
exrelayman — 2014-07-03T10:43:39-04:00 — #3
Yeah, right. I really wanted to give Linux a go. I downloaded 4 different 'newbie friendly' distros for live USB, Mint and Pinguy among them. Immediately problems! No sound, or error messages when the obligatory immediate update is attempted. Most linux distros think it is cute to leave the up down arrows off of the scroll bar. Looked for and found help on the topics. None of the help anywhere helped me. I am not real happy with windows, but I gave linux an honest try and left disgusted.
elemley — 2014-07-03T10:51:02-04:00 — #4
exrelayman - you should really give it a try. There are some easy to install distros - Ubuntu is among them. It is much better than it used to be... you probably won't believe this, but I once installed Linux (as a dual boot with Win 3.1) from 17 5.25 in. floppies. Yes, I knew you would not believe it, but it's absolutely true - I'm that old!
wilsontp — 2014-07-03T10:56:41-04:00 — #5
Yours took 17 floppies? I think I originally installed Linux the first time from maybe 2 floppies...
Seventeen??? You didn't have a 1.44MB drive?
elemley — 2014-07-03T10:58:32-04:00 — #6
No at that time I did not have 1.44MB drive. I probably got one soon after. You are right the number seems high to me too, but that's my recollection. This probably included all of X-Windows - I can't remember what else was packaged with it.
elemley — 2014-07-03T10:59:30-04:00 — #7
Also this would have been 1993 or early 1994.
campbell2644 — 2014-07-03T11:33:38-04:00 — #8
Interesting to read comments from yesteryear. It's all just too easy now. I'm a happy Linux Mint and PCLinux user and have never looked back.
wilsontp — 2014-07-03T11:34:32-04:00 — #9
That makes sense, then. My first builds of Linux didn't have X on them. I got a command prompt and liked it.
obadiahorthodox — 2014-07-03T12:13:43-04:00 — #10
If Ubuntu is so modern and great, why is it that I have to have a wired connection just to get internet access when I first tried to install it? Ubuntu 14.something is STILL not wifi ready out of the box!!! Absolutely useless to me as a viable OS. Plus, if I do finally get internet access, Firefox in Ubuntu 14 is STILL at #15!!!!! 15!!!!! Ubuntu will not automatically update Firefox to the latest version which is now 31!!!!! I tried all the different distros of Linux and not one of them worked for me. Sorry Linux FanBoys, but until you get your act together and include wifi access OUT OF THE BOX, I will never install any Linux distro ever.
elemley — 2014-07-03T12:44:18-04:00 — #11
Of course this thread was about installation... and it is easier than ever to install. I know plugging the machine into a network once is tough, but .... in my mind that's not a big hoop to jump through.
All software has bugs, and being able to run without rebooting for a year is something Windows desktop just can't do - pros/cons. So are you primarily not a fan of desktop Linux for the casual user? I mean it is almost inconceivable you don't have some version of Linux running on a device you own right this second.
Here's a funny story, I was at a Chuckie Cheese this past weekend and one of the photo-booth computers was starting up and what do you know but Redhat (pre-Enterprise versions) was booting! My kids sat and watched.
elemley — 2014-07-03T12:47:27-04:00 — #12
Yeah I worked mostly from the command prompt, but I was creating and running simulations (remotely) on these complicated geometries (that had to be specified using Boolean algebra no less!) and when I made them I had to see them to make sure they were right.
So I would get an X-Window up and telnet into the remote server and kick off the software to bring up the geometry graphics... kind of amazing Xserver could do all of this way back when.
daisywreath — 2014-07-03T12:55:11-04:00 — #13
I'm using Mint and wifi worked out of the box for me. I installed it without a wired connection and didn't have to do anything to get it working.
jlee1 — 2014-07-03T13:27:18-04:00 — #14
My wifi works even in just the "try ubuntu" option. I don't remember network being necessary for ubuntu installation. Only if you want updates and extra packages/programs that you will need network.
I agree that there are still alot of kinks. That is why I run my linux distro on a VM. It is my primary OS those. I don't really do much on the window side of my machine now a days. Just to run the VM.
printerguy — 2014-07-03T15:58:12-04:00 — #15
I've been using linux since Ubuntu 6.04, so 8 years now. It has come a very long way and has almost everything I need from an OS at this point. Wifi usually works for me out of the box, occasionally I have to use the additional drivers but for the most part everything just works. Windows 7 isn't any easier, if your network isn't supported natively you still have to find a way to download drivers. Printers are another area where Linux has done good things, using HPLIP makes using my printers a breeze compared to Windows. My favorite distros these days are Linux Mint and Manjaro (based on Arch), used to be a huge fan of Pear OS until it got bought out and disappeared. Linux may not be right for everyone but for me it just works and works well.
mitcoes — 2014-07-03T16:03:39-04:00 — #16
Manjaro or Antergos are even better than xUbuntu, and no, you do not need to be internet plugged.
I loved this article written as if the writer were more than 5 years without using Linux or even a decade
I miss in this article a mention to YUMI a software at pendrivelinux that allows you to have several LiveISO at one pendrive in order to try them all or having some specialized as pentests repair or antivirus ones
robinseahahn — 2014-07-03T17:59:44-04:00 — #17
Which wireless device? Your little rant is typical of Windows users who expect Linux to be a better Windows. Windows is a product: Linux is a community. You need to get YOUR act together, not Linux.
I'm pretty sure there's a driver for your device... just need to look a little.
I could say the same thing about getting an XP-based printer working... Linux Mint finds my networked printer and installs the drivers automatically. All I have to do is print a test page. No looking up printer manufacturers, downloading drivers specific to OS and version, installing, finding the printer by network name.... Linux does the whole thing in less than 30 seconds.
Oh, and am running Linux Mint Qiana. Found all my WiFi devices (three laptops so far) ... all working automatically.
kay — 2014-07-03T19:19:25-04:00 — #18
I love how-to-geek and have been relying on you for years. You've helped me fix or improve many things on my PCs and network! This article is very good, but I am missing something in making & using my live CD/DVD. I've tried using previous articles also, and I still make DVDs which don't work! It has been about 5 years since I've made my last dual boot PC; I've given both of those to my daughters and they are still loving their linux partitions. (Yes, I partitioned the PCs, installed the software, etc.) So, somewhere, I am seriously missing something in these articles. Hope someone can help! I've used the live CDs in the past to get on line,etc.
I will be making dual boot machines on PCs with XPpro, 7, and Vista machines.
I am suspicious that my mistake is that I need additional software (besides the iso) to make the DVD bootable.... Is that possible? The current article refers to using additional software when making a bootable thumb drive, what about a CD or DVD?
I have been burning the iso's to a dvd, made sure the PC would boot from a dvd, but the PC boots without even hesitating over the presence of a DVD in the drive.When I check the contents of the DVD, it appears to have the install files on it. Currently, I've made several Ubuntu DVDs using different distros, and I am still not able to get a live DVD.
So if someone could please give me a clue as to where I'm going wrong, I would be most grateful!
In other words, help!
thairan — 2014-07-04T05:58:47-04:00 — #19
I am in the same situation as Kay (above)....I have an old macbook (white 1/1) no cd drive, no trackpad,no more updates from apple, and only an old vers of usb, firewire, and an impossible solution to find the cables for connecting to my mbpro....is there any hope for me....I love linux, and that old mb...
firstname.lastname@example.org (i live in Thailand which should explain a lot of my problems)..........
whs — 2014-07-04T06:50:13-04:00 — #20
I am really a windows person but I have tried about a dozen Linux distros. I still have 4 different systems that I run in virtual from an external SSD. But the ultimate is an installation on a fast USB flash drive.
> Here is a tutorial I made that explains how to do that.
My favorite distro is Mint Mate. It provides a lot of options to easily customize the UI and it is a very stable system.
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