howtogeek at June 1st, 2013 13:39 — #1
raphoenix at June 1st, 2013 15:14 — #2
moree at June 1st, 2013 15:56 — #3
The Trivia link is broken - takes you to the Articles page.....
geek at June 1st, 2013 22:10 — #4
Thanks, I've updated it now.
harv at June 2nd, 2013 03:44 — #5
There's a rather famous clock in London, guess what Roman numeral it uses for four.
nanogeek at June 2nd, 2013 04:53 — #6
Big Ben use IV...
And that is the most famous clock on Britain
nsdcars5 at June 2nd, 2013 07:17 — #7
Why do all my watches show 4 as IV? That's the reason I chose "In Rome"....
matt_mullis at June 2nd, 2013 09:32 — #8
My clock uses IV to represent 4. However, when counting out loud we use numbers and not numerals.
mhenriday at June 2nd, 2013 10:19 — #9
«The only place you’ll find the [subtractive] rule broken is on clock faces.» One shouldn't be quite so sure of oneself when writing about Roman numerals ; it is not at all difficult to find examples unrelated to clocks in which the subtractive rule has not been applied....
rhintintin888 at June 2nd, 2013 13:45 — #10
The 8 does it too on the other side. It would ordinarily be IIX. Surely it is because it is easier to read that way? Having the subtractions would look wrong upside-down. Plus you wouldn't need less moulds. You would still need a mould for a I, V & X regardless and end up making two more numerals.
nanogeek at June 2nd, 2013 16:05 — #11
8 is normally VIII, not IIX... that is the convention.
Actually (My Classics Teacher Told me) in Rome, in Roman times, people would never subtract for numerals.
Instead classicists made this up around the 1600's.
So actually 14 was XIIII etc.
jmgroff763 at June 3rd, 2013 08:40 — #12
While I agree with you on pretty much everything else, 8 is usually written as VIII. e.g. Final Fantasy VIII. You only use the subtractive rule to avoid 4 or more of the same numeral in succession. (IV, IX) There could be some exceptions, but I think that's the general gist of it.
rhintintin888 at June 3rd, 2013 13:44 — #13
I stand corrected! I should have realised the same two. Excellent example with FF!
cliff_sees1 at June 4th, 2013 01:02 — #14
How does using IIII instead of IV affect the molds? There's already a V in the inventory, so how is that reasoning relevant?