howtogeek at May 20th, 2013 06:42 — #1
Originally published at: http://www.howtogeek.com/163424/how-to-get-rid-of-the-modern-environment-on-a-windows-8-pc/
So you’re using Windows 8 on a desktop or laptop. Microsoft goes out of their way to make this more awkward, scattering the tweaks you need to turn Windows 8 into a serviceable desktop operating system all over the OS.
henk at May 20th, 2013 06:59 — #2
Thanks for the clear roundup!
Still, imho the most satisfying (and time-saving) solution is to simply hold on to Windows 7, the system that we've all been tweaking to near-perfection over the last few years... Why throw it all overboard by installing this unpolished, wonky Windows 8?
Yes I actually did buy an upgrade to 8, in the introduction period when they came cheap. It didn't take me long to conclude that (at least for a non-touch desktop PC) the Metro/Modern + Desktop Interface Mix ought to be called what it actually is. The Frankenstein Interface!
conor at May 20th, 2013 09:58 — #3
Great post - is there any way to reduce the complexity of the password needed to log in? Have used my same simple on for my PC since I was about 12, and now I have to add capital and numbers?
ecbc at May 20th, 2013 10:15 — #4
Why would you ever want to get rid of the Modern front end? It is the best thing about Windows 8! I actually prefer Windows 8 to Windows 7 for a browsing environment (RSS/Podcasts/Playing Games/Browsing) and am using it most of the time now.
I reserve Windows 7 only for such things as programming (until the Metro environment can handle such things as compilers).
nsdcars5 at May 20th, 2013 10:17 — #5
Using a local account, I was able to set password to a simple "hi".
Awesome post, but I'm doing all of this anyway.
nevinhouse at May 20th, 2013 10:32 — #6
I think everyone is right. I develop using Visual Studio and participated in the Windows8 preview programs which were quite an interesting learning experience. I'm not that old and slow, but it did take me about 9 months to get used to doing typical Windows things in Windows8, and I still prefer Windows7 for my daily email reading, file downloading from banks/credit card firms, etc. Nevertheless, I don't mind these days using the Settings Charm for PowerUpDownSidewise and plan on continuing to incrementally work the "modern way" into my Windows use. Interestingly enough, however, I'm a mouse w/keyboard holdout and do not have any immediate plans to do a lot with touch even though I already develop software for touch devices in Visual Studio.
clamo at May 20th, 2013 12:14 — #7
simplest solution to the windows 8 BS is don't use it. just stick with 7
jsanchezmza at May 20th, 2013 12:17 — #8
Just like with all the new things, you need to learn to use it. Yes, changes are what they are... changes to situations we were comfortable with. But that doesn't mean they are bad, ugly things. In fact, I think Windows 8 is a huge improvement in a lot of ways. I work with windows 8 and the change from windows 7, took me 2 weeks to get comfortable. Actually I am still learning new things on Windows 8. But I have to say, I find Windows 8, just awesome. Of course, you have to install external applications, in order to fully handle all your needs, but that has always been like that in any OS. Without going deeper in any details about features and improvements, all I want to say is... Windows 8 is a new world, give it a try and you won't regret at all.
mrmidnight2011 at May 20th, 2013 13:38 — #10
The best way to start directly to the Desktop is to create the .scf file and copy it to the Startup folder. Now every time you boot up, it goes directly to the Desktop.
Or if you're lazy, purchase Start8 for $4.99, there's a menu option to select Desktop boot up.
Windows 8 is awesome!! Boots up in a mere 5 seconds on my all-in-one touch desktop with an SSD. Touch is the future like it or not.
2noob2btrue at May 20th, 2013 16:13 — #11
Saying something is awesome doesn't make it awesome and honestly, who reboots their system more then once every 2 weeks?
So think, maybe Win8 isn't so awesome for the majority of us who are using it on a non-touch desktop or laptop. Metro is a UI designed for the consumption of content, and forces you into a MS approved environment where your app has to be approved by big brother MS before you can distribute it.
If you like the look of a future in which MS rules over your OS with and iron fist, then you should love 8.
themike at May 20th, 2013 18:12 — #12
i broke geek protocol. I've installed an iobit product and actually liked it.
mrmidnight2011 at May 20th, 2013 18:14 — #13
Well using it on a non touch machine can be a bit more work, but you don't have to be in the UI all the time. It works great right from the Desktop. The only difference is the lack of a Start Button which rumor has it may come back on 8.1
Change...everyone hates change! But you really need to understand that in a few years time, Computers will have either a touch interface or gesture controls (like Kinect or Leap Motion). That's a fact! I like the the features on Windows 8, I can download certain apps, sign into another different PC and see those apps follow me. I don't like big Brother, I was once against MS for ruling the Internet browser arena back in the 90's. It's business...Google does it and certainly Apple with their ridiculous patent claims.
So Awesome for me, but sorry to hear not so awesome for you and others. But you can make it better. The tools are out there.
jsanchezmza at May 21st, 2013 09:44 — #14
That's not true at all. I have been using Windows 8 for already... 4 months or maybe 6. I am currently installing new software and testing programs, and it still boots up almost instantly. I don't have a touch screen. Also, you think you are in the good side of the ware... There are no good and bad ones. Do you think people work for free? Do you think Google, or linux work for free? Wake up little boy, have you heard of Google features being discontinued? do you know why? People needs to EAT and fead their family. You can keep on installing any external app btw, and for mobile platforms, Symbian, android, ios... where do they download their apps from? Yes!!!!! The store!!!! Mac OS does it as well.
2noob2btrue at May 21st, 2013 17:53 — #15
Sorry that is not a fact just yet, it's still speculation.
The main reason I use Windows over Google's Chromebook or Apple is because Windows is(or was), by and large, an open platform when it comes to program distribution.
I'm referring to the Metro environment which is prevalent on Windows 8. Of course you can install unapproved programs on the desktop side of the system. Didn't MS already declare the desktop legacy? How much longer do you really think it will be around?
You have either misunderstood or have twisted the meaning of my post. Whenever did I say Windows or any of MS's programs should be free? What I am in favor is free**dom** of choice, the choice to install what I want and use it when I want without an all powerful third entity controlling my every permissible action.
I would pay for software that shuts up, stays out of my face with ads and does it's job. And when did smartphones become prevalent in this argument, the topic is about making windows 8 more intuitive for the non-touch desktop user.
ottawa1 at May 22nd, 2013 10:39 — #16
Windows 8 is an absolute unintuitive mess in my opinion. We bought my mother in law a laptop earlier this year and Windows 8 was bundled on the machine. I had to put in a start menu and have the machine boot up into the desktop rather than the Metro UI. What a hunk of junk, it really is indefensible.
The Windows 8 operating system isn't free by the way, and the fact that consumers get screwed with the auto bundling of this OS on new machines isn't exactly consumer friendly and reeks of an over monopolized industry. Let's not cry for Microsoft please.
If you want a touch screen and a crappy app store go for it, but really who wants a giant smudgy touch screen? I can't stand a dirty screen as it is. The wave of the future, please. The wave is about how the monopolized industry decides where we are going and how they can squeeze more cash out of us.
I just built a PC for a family member and purchased Windows 7 to use as the OS (100.00 for the OS). Microsoft is getting their fair share and much more...
hypersonictech at May 22nd, 2013 14:05 — #17
Thanks for posting this article (very well done, clear use of images to help illustrate points). I've found that most of my customers don't care for the new Windows 8 environment, and we've generally had to make a few tweaks to make things work. Hopefully with Windows Blue, Microsoft can offer a simple option to revert to a Windows 7 style with a single click, for those that prefer it.
themike at May 22nd, 2013 21:06 — #18
i've installed the iobit start menu (but kept the sidebar and hot corners active) , bypassed the lock screen, and set the default programs. these few additions actually make windows 8 kind of useful now...
roaman at May 22nd, 2013 23:11 — #19
@ecbc I am sorry, but are you an idiot? I am not trying to incite you or anything, but are you over the age of 17? There has been marked changes and improvements in the Windows OS over the years. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. The Modern/Metro interface 'works' for tablets, but for a standard desktop/laptop it is clunky. I am going to go back to Win7 just to get rid of the infernal thing. This is another ME/XP, or Vista/Win7 issue. I am not am not being critical of MS, but I detest Win8. IMHO.
geek at May 22nd, 2013 23:15 — #20
If you call people names, you are clearly inciting them.
ecbc at May 23rd, 2013 00:06 — #21
I am a computer professional with a degree in computer science, retiring as lead Systems Analyst and Programmer of a Major Bank in Australia. I am now aged 63 years and have been
in the IT business for over 30 years after starting as a mainframe operator back in the days when PCs did not exist. Calling me names only shows your immaturity.
I love Windows 8 (and can live with Windows 7 for development) but Windows 8 IS the future, so please be a little more open minded (and civil) and get used to it.
Matter closed, thank you.
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