geek — 2013-04-11T19:44:27-04:00 — #1
One of the biggest criticisms of Windows 8 is that it defaults to all Metro apps for everything - opening a picture, video, PDF, or many other things. It's very annoying. There's also a lot of other annoyances.
Our own @whs pointed this out in a thread a bit ago...
You can change the default applications, but it's not obvious. Ahah! an idea!
I'm proposing that we create a script that changes all Windows 8 settings by default to be less annoying. Basically, wipe out Metro as much as possible.
First, we need to identify all the metro apps that are set to default, and whether there is another built-in alternative to said application. Or any other fixes we can make.
- Web links open in Metro IE
- Any other file types where Metro apps are set to default.
- Bypass the Start Screen and boot to desktop
- Windows update forcibly reboots your PC (Here's the registry key to change)
- Remove useless default apps
- Disable hot corners for the charms bar
- Download and install the Classic Shell (or start the installer)
- Are there any other settings that we should default to Desktop?
There's gotta be a way to at least make Windows 8 better for non-touchscreen users with a simple script.
@Iszi, @Netpilot, @taygibb let's get on this. (And anybody else that wants to help).
geek — 2013-04-11T20:45:46-04:00 — #2
I just remembered that you can use PowerShell to remove the default apps easily.
sam — 2013-04-11T20:49:17-04:00 — #3
My god, this is so annoying ... I am filled with rage every time this happen. Is there a simple fix?
geek — 2013-04-11T20:51:20-04:00 — #4
Indeed there is! One of my favorite articles... we've actually covered it twice on HTG. (Registry hack takes 30 seconds)
sam — 2013-04-11T20:51:23-04:00 — #5
- Auto install of classic shell I assume, as well?
- Video codecs, maybe media player classic.
- The ultra annoying UI for associating an unassociated app with a program.
kirk — 2013-04-11T20:56:09-04:00 — #6
The easiest solution of course is to continue using Windows 7.
geek — 2013-04-11T20:57:50-04:00 — #7
Yeah, that doesn't help.
This isn't a thread to bash Windows 8. We already have this one and this one, and also this one.
binaryphile — 2013-04-11T21:10:11-04:00 — #8
Chocolatey would probably help with software installation.
netpilot — 2013-04-11T22:43:47-04:00 — #9
Wow. Just mention someone around here and you get their attention.
This thread is only two hours old and has 168 views already? There must be many people looking for a way to make Windows 8 less annoying!
Is there a way to set up a quick poll in Discourse to ask those passers-by if essentially eliminating all traces of the Modern UI, as is being proposed here, would be something that would interest them?
geek — 2013-04-11T22:51:47-04:00 — #10
Actually Discourse doesn't have poll support quite yet.
But more importantly, I think it would be useful to me. And I'm guessing a lot of other people would like to fix the annoyances as well.
netpilot — 2013-04-11T22:58:50-04:00 — #11
Chocolately sounds quite interesting on first look, after watching their video.
iszi — 2013-04-11T23:21:26-04:00 — #12
For fixing default programs, where a preferred program is already installed, I'm sure there's a simple registry fix which can be done through PowerShell or BATCH. PowerShell will probably be the preferred means, since it is so versatile that you can probably do your entire script in one shot there.
I'd love to help, but I don't currently have a Windows 8 test machine.
geek — 2013-04-11T23:24:07-04:00 — #13
Yeah, I'm thinking PowerShell is the best choice. Plus @taygibb really knows it well, so he can help.
Really we just need to figure out all the annoyances that we'd like to fix, and then figure out if we can fix them, and then after that, put the script together.
iszi — 2013-04-11T23:31:22-04:00 — #14
In unrelated news, it looks like the highlight-to-quote function is back in Firefox.
taygibb — 2013-04-11T23:38:20-04:00 — #15
@geek Challenge accepted!
whs — 2013-04-11T23:49:18-04:00 — #16
Yes there is a simple fix, couldn't be simpler. See here.
netpilot — 2013-04-11T23:50:45-04:00 — #17
Well, I use Windows 8 and I think I've tamed it to my liking. The first thing I did was install Classic Shell. Because of that, and having changed the default file associations to Desktop Programs as I installed replacements for the Modern Apps and Windows prompted me that I had new programs to do so, I very rarely see the Modern UI unless I want to.
There's a whole suite of tools and tweaks that I add to every operating system after I do a clean install. In fact, I dedicate an entire, separate hard drive with two main folders off the root: Source (with subfolders for every installation program that I run, along with a link their web site) and Tweaks (scripts, reg files of registry changes I've made, and documentation about them, along with links to where I found them.) That way, when I set up a new system, I don't wonder where 'that functionality I had on my other machine' came from. (As an aside, about a third of the tweaks in my arsenal and references to many of the utilities I use have come from HTG.)
Finally, I admit that I did something recently that's a bit counter to my habit and to the spirit of the HowToGeek philosophy: I laid out $4.99 for a program to further tame Windows 8 from the 'other side'. Until there is a similar freeware solution, I have to give credit to Stardock for devising a way to run Modern Apps in desktop windows with ModernMix. An amazing program.
netpilot — 2013-04-11T23:53:03-04:00 — #18
@geek @Iszi @taygibb We all meet again! If we do this often enough, we'll become the HTG Swat Team!
geek — 2013-04-11T23:54:10-04:00 — #19
That's exactly what I'm thinking. We'll add more members to our team over time, and eventually we'll be able to tackle any awesome Windows (or other) project together.
whs — 2013-04-11T23:54:19-04:00 — #20
The Stardock programs are being praised by everybody. But isn't it ashame that a small 14 man company has to come to the rescue because big M$ cannot get their act together.
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