jfitzpatrick — 2014-03-30T06:40:41-04:00 — #1
Originally published at: http://www.howtogeek.com/184913/ask-htg-why-can-i-control-my-blu-ray-player-with-my-tv-remote-but-not-my-cable-box/
If you have a newer HDTV set you may have noticed that your TV remote can function as a universal remote of sorts (but it doesn’t work with all your devices). Read on as we explore how newer televisions are able to control the devices connected to them (and vice versa).
ks_kiran_kumar — 2014-03-30T07:55:41-04:00 — #2
the television set is accepting commands from its own remote, and then passing them along to to television set via the HDMI cable.
Do you mean to say "..... passing them along to Blu-Ray set via the HDMI cable."
pd86535 — 2014-03-30T09:03:19-04:00 — #3
In some cases this is less helpful than you would think. I just bought a new receiver to replace one that didn't have HDMI.
In my old setup, my cable box and my BD player were connected to the TV with separate HDMI cables and the audio was sent to the receiver with optical or coax cables. The TV would talk to the BD player over the HDMI cable but that was it. Now, the cable box is still conneceted directly to the TV by one HDMI cable and the BD player is looped throught the receiver to the TV with a second set of HDMI cables.
The problem is what happens now when you just want to watch TV, you turn on the cable box and the TV, and the receiver detects the TV has come on and turns itself on. When the receiver comes on it switchs itself to the TV as a source and disables the audio coming from the TV. You either have to walk over and manually turn off the receiver to make the audio come from the TV, or switch the source on the receiver to the cable box in order to hear anything.
In theory CEC is a great feature, but it can get very confusing and doesn't always produce the result you want. I can turn off CEC on the receiver, but then it won't talk to the BD player, which is very helpful. It would be great if you could disable specific devices from talking to each other.
cooper — 2014-03-30T15:35:44-04:00 — #4
I have a 2, maybe 3-yr.old Dynex TV from Best Buy that will not turn on & off with my Direct TV remote. It's the one my wife uses, and when she's not happy, you know the rest of that story. No one from Direct TV can figure this out. What do you folks think?
wilsontp — 2014-03-31T01:52:59-04:00 — #5
Turn the TV on first, then the receiver, then the cable box...
wilsontp — 2014-03-31T01:56:52-04:00 — #6
Buy a $20 Philips universal remote. You want the programmable, learning remote. It took me about an hour to set up, but after I did, I can run my entire home theater with it.
The Philips is the way to go.
cooper — 2014-03-31T07:58:35-04:00 — #7
Wilson - I'm "cheekin", as the Mexican bad-guys always say in the movies, to try the Phillips remote that took you 1-hr. to set up. If I "O.D." her TV I will be in the dog-house forever. I will go to Best Bye (no free commercials from me) today to check it out, however!
pd86535 — 2014-03-31T09:49:51-04:00 — #8
What I really want is for the receiver to not turn itself on at all when I'm just watching TV.
wilsontp — 2014-03-31T11:04:11-04:00 — #9
How do you watch cable without turning on the receiver? The usual setup is to run everything through the receiver, using that to switch inputs and provide all of your audio output. In that scenario, there's usually no way to watch anything without the receiver on?
pd86535 — 2014-03-31T19:38:09-04:00 — #10
The cable box is connected to the TV directly and I ran a separate optical cable from the cable box to the receiver. 99% of the time I just listen to the TV audio through the TV speakers and only use the receiver for BD audio or other sources.
The old receiver did not have HDMI so this configuration worked well, now it's annoying because the receiver is detecting the TV has turned on even though it's being fed by a source that's not connected to the receiver. When I use the BD player it's great, all I do is turn on the player and that causes the TV and the receiver to power on, and they both switch to the BD as a source. When I'm done I just turn off the TV and everything else shuts off too. It's only when using the cable box that it gets annoying. I could turn off CEC on the TV and that would probably solve the problem, but then the TV wouldn't turn on and off with the BD player.
wilsontp — 2014-03-31T20:00:25-04:00 — #11
On my setup, everything goes through the receiver; the TV is useless without the receiver turned on. I'm wondering routing the cable box through the receiver, like the receiver expects, would solve your CEC woes.
Since my devices don't all support CEC, I use a universal learning remote. I went through a bunch before I settled on the Philips; it seems to be the most responsive of all the ones I tried (I even tried and returned 2 different Harmony remotes over the years; those are just way too overcomplicated for what they're supposed to do.)
localhost — 2014-03-31T20:39:55-04:00 — #12
If you have a somewhat newer TV, see if it has an HDMI port that is ARC capable. ARC stands for Audio Return Channel.
Basically, you connect everything to your TV (as opposed to the receiver), and then connect the TV (using its HDMI ARC port) to your receiver. That way, the TV always gets audio from whatever source you're looking at, (provided its using HDMI for both audio and video) and then sends the audio channel to the receiver. Basically, the receiver always gets the audio channel from whatever is being displayed on the TV without having to switch its inputs manually. I have the feature on my TV and it works beautifully.
jfitzpatrick — 2014-04-09T06:40:54-04:00 — #13
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