chrishoffman — 2014-05-28T06:40:39-04:00 — #1
Originally published at: http://www.howtogeek.com/189831/6-reasons-why-you-cant-move-your-cell-phone-to-any-carrier-you-want/
You can buy a laptop or Wi-Fi tablet and use it on Wi-Fi anywhere in the world, so why are cell phones and devices with mobile data not portable between different cellular networks in the same country?
michaeltunnell — 2014-05-28T12:14:25-04:00 — #2
Except you ignored the Nexus 5 which can actually switch to any carrier you want (though Google has a boycott against Verizon, technically it could work though)
wilsontp — 2014-05-28T12:53:33-04:00 — #3
The N5 doesn't work on Verizon because it doesn't support Verizon's LTE bands. The radio frequencies a device can use is determined not just by software, but by the design of the radio transceivers, the amplifiers, and the size of the antenna.
Also, unlike GSM providers, Verizon will only provision phones they sell, partly because the phones require proprietary Verizon firmware to talk to the radio network. Even if Google built the phone to physically support Verizon's network, Verizon itself would still have to write a radio ROM for the phone.
michaeltunnell — 2014-05-28T12:59:08-04:00 — #4
Just because LTE wouldn't work doesn't mean the phone couldn't be on the network but that doesn't matter to my point. Nexus 5 can switch to basically anything and who cares if it can't switch to Verizon...if you want to get your money stolen from you for garbage service there is always the GSM option, AT&T.
Essentially, Verizon is garbage and screws over their customers any chance they get. (know from personal experience, left Verizon about a month ago)
wilsontp — 2014-05-28T13:11:57-04:00 — #5
I've been on Verizon, on and off, since 1998. My family has been on Verizon (and its predecessors) since around 1987. We've never been screwed by Verizon. I have also had a phone or broadband device on AT&T since 2008, if I recall.
My brother was screwed by Sprint when he received a new phone under warranty, and they tried to collect an ETF when he left a month later. (His contract had been over for months.)
I was less than happy with T-Mobile when they collected an ETF, despite the fact that I could not receive cellular service at my new house. I wouldn't called it being "screwed", however, since I was the one that moved, not them.
I was less than happy with Sprint when they changed the terns of service on my tablet and refused to let me out of my contract. The fact that they have a 4G hotspot in their retail stores, and the service is virtually useless "in the wild" borders on fraud, but I wasn't going to take them to court for $200.
In fact, Verizon has consistently given me the best customer service for my personal and business mobile phones. When I had a problem with my 3G modem a couple years ago, a tech actually drove out to my location to analyze the signal. Then he had the nearby cell tower adjust their power settings to fix a conflict between two nearby towers (they were fighting for my modem's attention.)
You can't beat that kind of service.
Aside from Verizon, AT&T has been very close in terms of reliability and performance, and I am very happy with the performance of my iPad on AT&T's LTE. When my contract with Verizon ends next year, I'll probably switch to AT&T so I can use the unlocked Nexus phones going forward.
michaeltunnell — 2014-05-28T13:27:01-04:00 — #6
It is true that ALL US Carriers have been utter garbage and rip people off over the years. However, T-Mobile replaced their CEO and the new guy has completely restructured the company. They are no longer dbags.
You can get a phone at a good deal...service at a good deal...family plan at a good deal with unlimited Talk and Text (which is what most people want the most)...and so on.
I used to hate all carriers but T-Mobile has flipped the industry and has even forced AT&T and Verizon to stop being the dbags that they have been. They are still dbags but less so now.
wilsontp — 2014-05-28T14:18:35-04:00 — #7
Assertions with no evidence....
Prove your point. Show customer satisfaction statistics to back this up... I don't think you can.
Has any carrier been perfect? No. But they are all trying to get and keep our business, and they have all been improving over time - both in the quality of their telephone service and the quality of their customer service.
But "utter garbage"? Not any of the big 4. Not since I've been using them... any of them.
michaeltunnell — 2014-05-28T14:47:02-04:00 — #8
I've used every carrier and all were garbage...until T-Mobile changed their structure. Ting is also good but they are a recent company and weren't included in the US Carriers because they aren't a Carrier, they are an MVNO.
You ask for evidence with statistics and yet at the same time only offer personal experience which is anecdotal...hypocrite much?
wilsontp — 2014-05-28T15:40:25-04:00 — #9
On the contrary... you're the one making the assertion that something is garbage. I'm asking you to prove your assertion. That is standard argumentation practice, is it not?
And from what I can find on the web (one example), Verizon has been scoring in the 70's for years. Not "garbage", as you would state.
Sure, maybe the carriers didn't work for you; maybe it's your location or your bad attitude... but that doesn't mean everyone has a bad experience. The term "garbage" would mean that a product is useless for everyone, or for at least the vast majority of its potential users... and that's simply not the case.
In fact, even the worst carriers (AT&T and Sprint have switched places since 2011) score around 60%. That means that the majority of their users are happy with them. Again, not "garbage." Obama was elected with 52% of the vote - does that make our President "garbage", too?
You throw that word around a lot, but can't seem to back it up with facts. Interesting.
michaeltunnell — 2014-05-28T19:16:10-04:00 — #10
Lol ok so you never back up anything you say and when I call you a hypocrite for you know being a hypocrite you suddenly start trying to find links to contradict that.
70% of Verizon customers like Verizon? How many of those 70% have any idea what they are talking about and don't get tricked by the b.s. advertisements?
They also asked people mostly in areas that have good Verizon service and crap Sprint coverage. Ask people in areas where they have even roll out of all. It is certainly possible to do that.
wilsontp — 2014-05-28T19:27:52-04:00 — #11
You really don't know anything about anything, do you? You come in, throw around accusations and insults, then stand back and act all proud of yourself...
So, even though you can't back up what you say (and still haven't, instead you stand there and continue to insult me), you are now moving the goal post.
There are words for people like you... but people get banned for using that kind of language.
How about, rather than continue to insult me, you back up your statements... or stop talking. I don't even care which, at this point. I am just tired you spouting "garbage! hypocrite!" over and over again.
michaeltunnell — 2014-05-29T18:10:55-04:00 — #12
you back up your comments with flawed statistics and acuse me of trying to make accusations...heh...why do you even care if I don't like the carriers? (which I do like T-Mobile now)
Why does this even matter to you? I'm not going to bother with fighting you on this because I couldn't care less so wasting my time trying to fight you would be pointless.
robert_zanol — 2014-05-29T18:50:35-04:00 — #13
IMO all the big name carriers are ripoffs.
wilsontp — 2014-05-29T19:08:22-04:00 — #14
Why did you care enough to "correct" me when I said something you disagreed with on another thread? It seems you are the one who cares enough to carry on an argument and attempt to get the last word, even though you no longer have any facts to stand on.
I just didn't like you calling things and people "garbage" when it's not true. Like I said, I've been very happy with 3 of those "garbage" carriers, and even if I had bad luck with the fourth, I think it's unfair to malign them when other people are very happy with them.
Your personal experience is not the sole arbiter of what's good and bad, just like mine isn't. Get a thousand people together and ask about their collective experience, and you may have something that resembles an authoritative answer. But for you to spout your opinion of "garbage" as absolute truth is wrong and incorrect.
michaeltunnell — 2014-05-29T19:29:01-04:00 — #15
there is a difference between having an opinion and spreading misinformation.
system — 2014-06-07T06:40:52-04:00 — #16
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